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From the beginning, and how it led up to this and what you saw.

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Okay, okay the first thing, they have, okay, we took off, you know, up into the hills.

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Uh huh.

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And we hiked the trail, section three lake trail.

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And we went back in, let's say about six miles, and then started getting dark.

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And we sat down and had a cigarette.

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Well first time, you know, I friend Tom jumped something.

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Yeah, he wasn't sure about where it was.

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It was pretty fast, it went up the hill.

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And it was a bunch of, you know, sails, rocks, there's a little patch up, you know, a tight brush.

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And we sat there and just, you know, shrug it off, you know, we don't have any idea.

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Just kind of ignored it.

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Yes.

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And so we started, after we got down into the cigarette, we started walking back out.

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And it was time we started walking out, you know, it was just, you know, and it was dark.

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And so we got down, it's about a half mile to a mile.

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And we started hearing some, I heard some twigs.

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I mean, me and Junior heard some twigs behind us breaking.

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And we told Tom about it.

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Tom turned around and flashed real quick and he wasn't there, he kept on walking.

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And we kept hearing these, you know, noises behind us.

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Yes.

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And so we, you know, just kept on walking.

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And Tom was shining the flashlight back there every time we'd hear something.

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And so we finally made it to camp.

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And we got down to camp, and I went down and started a fire.

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And so I got the fire started.

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And Tom got his shoes out of the back, you know, and he sat down.

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And then after that, I took the flashlight and the hatchet in my hand.

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I went, you know, already chopped some wood off with his old rock log.

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Yes.

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And I shined the light up over across the pond.

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And when I shined across the pond, I saw these greeny, yellow eyes.

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They were kind of like, swollen.

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And I yelled for Tom, and Tom came over there and he seen them too.

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And after that, we just, you know, kind of ignored it.

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And when we sat back down, Tom got back up about three, five minutes later.

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And he shined the flashlight over there.

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And when he shined it, you see the whole body and the green yellow eyes.

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Can you hold for a minute, Nero?

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Okay.

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Thanks for holding, Nero.

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Okay.

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Go ahead.

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And when Tom shined the light over, you know, he seen it.

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And he yelled for me.

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When he yelled for me, a junior got up too.

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And ran over to him.

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We, you know, both ran around the other side of the fire to look and see what this was.

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And we seen it.

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And when we seen it, it was tall.

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Eight, maybe eight and nine or ten foot tall.

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I'm not, you know, trying to drain this up right now, but it was.

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And it was just big.

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It had shoulders.

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I mean, it was just, what do you want to say, bigger than hell.

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And it was just, it was also, it was kind of furry, like, you know, with the hair on it, with the head.

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It looked like it was just like a human.

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Uh-huh.

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I know.

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So we, Tom got his gun.

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He got the 300, and we had a 700.

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He fired a 300 six time up in the air if he could scare it off.

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And then, then he fired the 700.

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He fired that once because that's the one that's going to be had.

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And it didn't even work.

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He scared it off.

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And every time we tried to flashlight at it, it would shite light.

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And so, you know, the next day after that, Tom said, let's get the sleep bags.

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And let's get out of here.

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So we got the sleep bags.

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And just then, after Junior came back out of the tent with the sleep bags, I mean, an awful scream.

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Right?

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And we were like, you know, just like a, I don't know, like a bobcat or something screaming.

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Yes.

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And, uh, yeah, we just got there at night and just took off.

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And now we were too scared and left the tent and everything out there.

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But we seen it, you know, the thing.

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It was big.

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And there's me and the other two guys, we seen it too.

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Okay.

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Now, is, uh, how far away would you say that creature was from you?

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I think, approximately about a hundred yards.

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But it could be farther.

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It could be less.

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I'm not really too sure.

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You know, I don't get on my distance that good.

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Did it respond at all to your, uh, flashlight beam?

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It was shite to it.

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It turned away from it.

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I see.

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And the beam, did the beam actually hit it?

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Yeah.

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The beam was right on it.

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The flashlight beam was.

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Okay.

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And because the little flashlight had, it's pretty powerful.

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Uh-huh.

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And I've got Tom still got it in his Jeep.

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And that, I mean, there was enough there.

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Enough there to scare a person.

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And you haven't been back there since?

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No.

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Well, we went back up to next day for hunting.

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I see.

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And we looked around and saw a little kid's footprint, little girl's or boy.

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And we never seen those up there when we were up there hunting.

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Because I walked all around that pond, saw a junior and Tom.

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Uh-huh.

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And we never seen a thing up there, you know, a footprint.

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How was the weather then?

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The weather was, during the day it was nice.

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And during the night, I think it started to get cloudy.

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Uh-huh.

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I'm not sure, I think.

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Yeah, a little cloud, a bunch of clouds, you know, went over.

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But it was still nice up the next day.

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But it was, you know, cloudy still.

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Okay, during those hours of darkness, did you people see anything in the sky?

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Uh, no, we didn't.

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Uh-huh.

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Okay.

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About how long would you say you had that picture under observation?

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I'm not sure.

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I mean, about 15 minutes or a little bit more.

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Okay, do you have any idea when you spotted it?

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About what time?

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Yes.

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I'm not sure.

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It was after a little after dark, maybe about, a bit of a, between 8.39 from around there.

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Okay.

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I'm not really sure.

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Because Tom's the one I had to watch and everything.

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I see.

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Yeah, because I don't care what's in that broke mind.

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Uh-huh.

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Yeah.

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Okay, have you had quite a few calls on this?

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Uh, I've had radio stations call me.

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I see.

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Has there been any private organizations?

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Good, I hope you have.

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Not as far as I know because we've been gone today.

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I went out and got some parts of my four-wheel drive today.

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Now, are you going to go back to that area and get your tent?

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Well, I got the tent.

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The Ranger got it and the Sheriff did for me.

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Oh, I see.

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But we're planning going back up there tomorrow.

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Did they look the area over pretty good?

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Yeah, they looked it over.

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And all they could find was those small footprint?

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Yeah, they found those small footprint.

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Plus, you know, our plate, we had a plate full of food up there.

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And it was already 8, you know, 8 and a half.

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Uh-huh.

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And the Ranger's on our, you know, pot cans and that where we could, you know, it's left

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the boy and he took off.

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Could you give me as close as you can the precise location?

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Uh, where it was at?

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Yes.

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Okay, do you want me to tell you how to get in there then?

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Yes.

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Okay, do you know where the white's path is?

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Yes.

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Okay, do you know where the Titan is?

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It's called, you know, okay.

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You might know where Clear Lake is then.

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Clear Lake?

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Uh-huh.

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Okay.

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Okay, just going to go to Clear Lake.

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Okay, when you turn off the white's path, highway, there'll be a sign that says Titan.

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And you turn there and go back in.

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Stay on the black top road.

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Don't, you know, go off it.

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Keep driving, keep driving.

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And you'll come to a bridge and you'll have to, you know, you'll have to turn.

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Yes.

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And follow that around.

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If you don't, you know, the road straight ahead is all gravel.

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I see.

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The road that we were on, it's all black top.

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Okay, you follow that and go up in there.

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Say, how many miles it is, maybe about 10.

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Come out there.

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You follow that and you see a sign off the road says Pinegrass Bridge.

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Uh-huh.

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Okay, you follow that road up there and you keep following.

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The road's turned off to the left, halfway up.

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And don't take that road.

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And keep going.

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I think it's a third road.

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No, fourth road up there.

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Well, it's the third road up to the right.

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Okay.

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And you just keep merit to your right.

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Another road.

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Well, it says section three lake.

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Just, you know, watch for the sign.

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Oh, I see that's where you were at.

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Yeah.

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Okay, when you get up there at top, you see where we had our fire.

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And we had to, you know, like, park here where the stakes were pulled up out of the ground.

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Uh-huh.

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And we had the deep part, the picnic cable.

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Okay, just where there's a fire is, we got a rock pit.

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And right in front, there's a log there.

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And you look, you know, you can look out, there's a pond there.

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And there's two trails leading up into section three lake.

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Uh-huh.

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Up there.

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Okay, it's the second trail over the shortcut one out.

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And it's, you know, grassier at like.

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Oh, I see.

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And we're kind of getting a little bit of a national team on the side.